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Hi Mike,
I have also been asked this question and generally tend to point them to one of the Nicholson’s chain which include both the Cross Keys and White Swan in Goodramgate that we pass by on the route of the walk.
Of course there are other alternatives including the Golden Slipper and The Royal Oak which are also in Goodramgate.As we tend to be standing in Whip-ma-whop-ma-gate when being asked, I often point out that the Golden Fleece in Pavement claims to be “the most haunted pub” in York……
Finally, if there are any Canadians asking, I point them toward the Black Swan in Peasholme Green as Wolfe family lived here before they moved to the American colonies.
You can read all about Sir Thomas Fairfax here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Fairfax
Jane,
Stand on the opposite side of Goodramgate to the “Snickleways Inn” and compare the rendered front of the building compared to those on either side.
The “exposed timbers” of the pub can be seen, however you need to go down the little lane to the right of the pub and look up at the rear wall.As the war was between the House of York and the House of Lancaster rather than the towns of Lancaster and York I tend to not mention it, unless asked specifically about it.
I think that many associate it with the two towns…..Standing at the junction with Deangate and looking down Goodramgate you wil;l notice that the houses that form “Lady’s Row” (Opposite that horrible 1960’s Building that the Yorkshire Trading Company currently occupy) would give a much narrower Goodramgate. The houses date from 1316 and show the original “building line” of the street.
All of the shops on the right are set back.
Does that help?
I have a photograph from 1915 taken from outside the Cross Keys looking down Goodramgate that is interesting to compare whit today’s view.
Pop me an email if you want a copy (Mick@popka.co.uk)According to the University of York Website (https://www.york.ac.uk/about/campus/history/):
“While petitions were drawn up as early as 1617, permission to establish a university in York was not granted until 1960. The development of the University and its vision was headed by Baron James of Rusholme, the university’s first Vice-Chancellor.With Heslington Hall and The King’s Manor as the primary venues, the University opened its doors in October 1963 to 230 students and 28 staff.”
I also asked “Chat-GPT” and got the following answer:
“The absence of a university in York, North Yorkshire, until 1960 can be attributed to various historical and socio-economic factors. Here are a few possible reasons:
Historical development: York has a rich historical background, with its origins dating back to the Roman period. However, for much of its history, York primarily served as an ecclesiastical and administrative center rather than an educational hub. The city’s focus was on its religious institutions, such as York Minster, and its role as a regional seat of power, rather than establishing a university.
Dominance of Oxford and Cambridge: In the past, higher education in England was largely concentrated in Oxford and Cambridge. These two ancient universities held a monopoly on formal education, and their dominance persisted for many centuries. The establishment of universities outside these traditional centers was relatively uncommon.
Economic factors: Building and maintaining a university requires substantial financial resources. In the early 20th century, York was primarily an industrial city, with its economy centered around manufacturing and railway industries. The city’s economic priorities may have limited the available funds and resources to establish and support a university.
Competition from nearby universities: York’s proximity to other established universities might have played a role in delaying the establishment of a university in the city. The University of Leeds, located approximately 25 miles southwest of York, was already serving the educational needs of the region. The presence of a nearby university may have reduced the urgency or demand for a separate university in York.
It’s worth noting that these factors are speculative and may not fully capture the complexities of the historical context. The specific circumstances surrounding the establishment of a university in York would require a more detailed analysis of local history, politics, and educational development during that time period.”
It may be worth asking the Yorkshire Museum and/or the York Archaeological Trust.
I’m sure they will have had some involvement in the project.Hi Ken,
I gave up on the mask on my first walk on Saturday 5th September as it steamed up immediately, together with my glasses.
I resorted to the cloth facemask and realised that this muffled what I was actually saying.
Since then I have not worn a mask but ensured that social distancing was enforced between myself and the tour members.
I found the most interesting route was to turn from Museum Street into St. Leonards and viewed the missing wall between Bootham Bar, together with the depth gap between the Roman wall remains and the Mediaeval wall.Thanks for that Ken,
I did a “Dry Run” on Tuesday and took the route down the left hand side of St Leonards to include the small piece of roman wall.
At the East End of the minster I walked down Chapter House Street into Ogleforth and then to the base of Monk Bar,
Then back up Goodramgate and past George Hudson’s shop to St Williams College.
I think that was about 2 hours, along the way I “collected” a couple of visitors who were happy to walk along and hear the tales….